Awesome, thank you for responding again. I think I see something that might be happening. Follow along and tell me if you agree:
It's been established that [Judah] has a classic escalating DV pattern
Substitute "It's been established" with "I have evidence". Without questioning you or your evidence, can you see how others - especially the party hosts - would not have such evidence prior to the BoS party? And even with such evidence, there are at least two other explanations I've heard that account for this.
I hope Pygment won't smack me for violating confidence, since she chose not to dive into this and deleted her own post, but she's stated to me that there are multiple models that can be applied to patterns such as Judah has shown. Among other things, those models predict different behavior toward others. She also doesn't have access to the evidence you have; perhaps if she did she'd change her belief. But crucially, I don't think S&R have that evidence, nor do they have your training, nor do they have your past history.
What they do have is their own experiences and history. Scott has repeatedly referred to past situations and it's clear to me that he's using those to model this situation. What I hear you saying is that either those past situations were not handled the way you'd've liked them to be, or they're not appropriate models for this situation. Does that seem accurate to you?
I don't know how anyone can assume that someone with Judah's history and MO could possibly not continue to be a danger
Here you're asking me to defend a conclusion I don't believe - I think this is similar to our discussion right after the event. I believe Judah is sufficiently dangerous that I don't want him around. I ALSO believe that people who are sane and logical can come to different conclusions. Being mistaken is not the same as being insane or illogical.
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It's been established that [Judah] has a classic escalating DV pattern
Substitute "It's been established" with "I have evidence". Without questioning you or your evidence, can you see how others - especially the party hosts - would not have such evidence prior to the BoS party? And even with such evidence, there are at least two other explanations I've heard that account for this.
I hope Pygment won't smack me for violating confidence, since she chose not to dive into this and deleted her own post, but she's stated to me that there are multiple models that can be applied to patterns such as Judah has shown. Among other things, those models predict different behavior toward others. She also doesn't have access to the evidence you have; perhaps if she did she'd change her belief. But crucially, I don't think S&R have that evidence, nor do they have your training, nor do they have your past history.
What they do have is their own experiences and history. Scott has repeatedly referred to past situations and it's clear to me that he's using those to model this situation. What I hear you saying is that either those past situations were not handled the way you'd've liked them to be, or they're not appropriate models for this situation. Does that seem accurate to you?
I don't know how anyone can assume that someone with Judah's history and MO could possibly not continue to be a danger
Here you're asking me to defend a conclusion I don't believe - I think this is similar to our discussion right after the event. I believe Judah is sufficiently dangerous that I don't want him around. I ALSO believe that people who are sane and logical can come to different conclusions. Being mistaken is not the same as being insane or illogical.