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drwex ([personal profile] drwex) wrote2014-02-22 10:23 pm
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Apparently I'm "mildly abnormal"

I thought I had written about going for a sleep study, but seems like not.

People near me have been pushing me to get a study for years. I sleep less than normal - like 5.5-6 hours/night - and there are no meds approved for early waking that isn't co-present with depression. Most people who have sleep problems have problems falling asleep, or wake up. People with common sleep problems such as apnea or restless limbs sleep a normal amount but wake up still feeling tired. I wake up feeling like I've slept but man I wish I could sleep more hours.

The thing that tipped me into finally getting it done was discovering that having untreated sleep apnea raises one's risk of congestive heart failure by 20-30%. I got my physician to schedule one for early this month and the results just got mailed to me. As noted, I'm "mildly abnormal" but my apnea is not sufficient to recommend treatment unless it gets worse or I have other symptoms. Which, see above, I don't.

On the one hand that's reassuring. I wasn't looking forward to trying to adapt to sleeping with a mask, not to mention the effect of the noise on Pygment. On the other hand, it leaves me with no options for getting more good sleep.

I was amused to read that "REM supine sleep was not achieved" to which I said "no shit, Sherlock." How anyone can sleep at all with that level of crap glued to and wrapped around them is beyond me. I normally sleep pretty deeply but between all the sensors, the breathing bands, the crap hospital bed, and the overheated stuffy room there was no way I was going to get a real night's rest.

[identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com 2014-02-23 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The results when I let google auto fill depression after early waking actually do look kinda promising
https://www.google.com/#q=early+waking+depression

Specifically
http://sleepdisorders.about.com/od/howcanisleepbetter/a/What-Causes-Early-Morning-Awakenings.htm
Was the first I clicked into...

[identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com 2014-02-23 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.google.com/#q=early+waking+disorder. Also looks like a promising search set.
I second melatonin. If you sleep long enough, not a hangover feeling.

[identity profile] rednikki.livejournal.com 2014-02-24 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
Do you wake up when the sun starts coming up? Because I do, in a BIG way. Not at dawn - pre-dawn.

Let me make it clear: it's not sunlight coming into the window that does it. Our place is on an atrium. In the summer we get four hours of direct sunlight a day and three months out of the year we get NONE. We have dark navy curtains on our window. And even in the dark months, just the tiniest shift of light toward dawn will wake me up. I have slept in hotel rooms with "blackout" curtains and they are almost never effective enough to allow me to sleep through that moment.

This is a problem I have had all my life but I only identified a solution about three years ago. The thing that has helped me get a bit more sleep is a very specific eye mask from Bucky (with hollows for the eyes so it doesn't press against them) that I put on when I wake up at 5:45am (which is when the sky starts turning here). I found it three years ago and it's made a huge difference.

[identity profile] rednikki.livejournal.com 2014-02-26 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
Blackout curtains don't help me either. The tiniest peep of light and I'm done.

[identity profile] rednikki.livejournal.com 2014-03-01 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough!
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[personal profile] tshuma 2014-02-24 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
I also suffer from "early waking". For a period of time, I was balancing medications against each other to find the best fit to handle depression + anxiety. The medication I was prescribed for the depression had a tendency to increase the anxiety, especially in the early morning, and keep me a little too buzzed to fall asleep easily. So I was prescribed Ambien for the falling asleep, which has very different effects than trying to use Benadryl for the same thing. However, for the morning anxiety, I was prescribed the smallest possible dose of Lyrica as a side label use. (I do also have nerve pain in my hands, but it is minimal.) The Lyrica has a calming effect. I still woke in the morning but I didn't tend to surface completely, which allowed me to fall back asleep instead of lying there with all my thoughts buzzing until I would give up and get up.

I'm no longer on these medications, but I was on them on a consistent schedule for about two years, and it helped immensely. Installing true dark curtains on the windows has helped me since I stopped the medications, but it isn't sufficient.

I can't tell from your entry exactly what form the morning waking takes, so I'm not sure if this is helpful or not, but it might be useful to explore this realm.
Edited 2014-02-24 05:43 (UTC)