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drwex ([personal profile] drwex) wrote2016-05-09 05:53 pm
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We saw Captain America: Civil War and it was a great evolution in superhero movies

Spoilers will be below the cut and may appear in comments. You have been warned.

Captian America: Civil War is really an Avengers movie that happens to center on Cap. It's also an excellent meditation on the nature of friendship and responsibility. 4/5 stars

It's impossible to ignore how closely this movie followed on the disastrous Batman vs Superman not least because they overlap significantly in themes. This movie could have been titled "Captain America vs Iron Man" because yes these two iconic superheros do duke it out. But it's so much more and the ways CA:CW succeeds highlight a lot of BvS's failures. Captain America movies have not, from the first, been feel-good pictures. This movie is not going to cheer you up, either. But it's not about "darkness" - whatever that might be - it's about how people can have very different ideas on how to achieve goals they all see as right. How each of us has different tradeoffs we're willing to make. And what it means to be friends when your friends are trying to kill each other.

Another thing this movie has going for it is its exploration of consequences and growth. The heroes have to wrestle with the fact that they (despite saving the world several times over) have devastated cities and that innocents have died. Those acts have consequences - nobody in this movie walks away scot free. Also, everyone grows. That's a credit both to the actors and to the writers here who manage to show growth almost entirely without hitting us over the head with it. Comparing how everyone acts in this movie against how they behaved in their earlier appearances you can see they've gotten older, wiser, more cautious, more aware.

Below be spoilers...

I would like to see some opinions from reviewers of color, but as a white guy who tries to be aware of such things it struck me as notable that there are three significant black roles in this film. All three are competent full people, each with his own agenda. Although it's not directly teased I think we're seeing set-up for a Black Panther movie. Chadwick Boseman rocks the house and John Kani is excellent as his father. I want to see an origin story with the two of them.

The movie does somewhat better than past films on the presentation of women but it still feels lacking. Wanda/Scarlet Witch spends most of her time interacting with Vision and Scarlett Johansson turns in a fantastic performance but she's caught in the middle of the civil war and doesn't have a lot of screen time. In the last Captain America movie she had the "best buddy" role. Here, she ends up looking more lost.

Two other women of note in the film: Emily VanCamp is the Oh Yes Please we've all been wanting since the last movie. She's smart and competent and funny and totally someone you want on your team - but she spends almost all her screen time interacting with Cap. And Alfre Woodard packs more emotion into one small monologue than most actors get into a whole chapter. But it's just her facing off against Tony Stark. Despite all the excellent female actors and roles I think the film still fails the Bechdel test.

In talking about past Captain America movies I've asserted that the film does best when it's in close-up. One-shot or two-shot and you're in on the characters. The first film failed badly in its wide/group shots. The second was better. This one manages to avoid that fail by not having such shots except for the epic battle at the airport, which I think is the film's weakest bit.

That airport battle goes on too long and showcases two characters that I think could have been cut from the film entirely. I do like what they seem to be setting up to do with Spider Man and I do need to see the Ant Man movie but really neither one belongs here. Growing the ensemble by two just for this one fight seems pointless and makes the whole thing drag out too long. The important emotional impacts of this chapter - Black Widow facing down Black Panther, and Vision's missed shot - take far too long to show up. A Smash Brothers superhero brawl is ... OK I guess? but what's the point. The good parts are in those pairings, or the interactions of Black Widow and Hawkeye (then Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch).

Even in the opening sequence where the Avengers are taking on the terrorist gang, most of the shooting is done close up, with few wide shots and no group battling. It's split up, tight, and works way better for it.

But all the slugging and punching and shooting aside, this is a character film and every character in it plays their parts well. I think the filmmakers don't yet know what to do with Vision (he was problematic in the comics I remember as well) but even there we get hints. It's a remarkable hat trick, when you think about it - a continuous narrative done over multiple movies, taking comic-book characters and bringing them to believable life on the big screen, while having the characters go through growth, maturity, change, and authentic conflict.

[identity profile] sariel-t.livejournal.com 2016-05-09 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed with your assessment. Was very happy to see this one in theaters.
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[personal profile] ckd 2016-05-10 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Black Panther is slated for release February 16, 2018. A ways off, but it's on the way. This appearance is definitely setup.

[identity profile] heather mccrillis (from livejournal.com) 2016-05-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I remember Spider Man being unmasked in the "Civil War" comic series, but I don't remember seeing Ant Man in them. I'd be fine with neither of them in this movie.
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2016-05-19 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The appearance of Ant Man only makes sense in the context of the airport scene. I was mystified until they get to him reversing things and going to Giant-Man size. At that point, it becomes clear that it's pure fan-service, but weirdly gripping in that context: they were kinda-sorta recreating the death-of-Goliath sequence from the comics, which is one of the turning points in the original story. Far as I can tell, the whole point was to mess with the heads of the hardcore comics geeks...
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2016-05-19 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Like I said, the appearance of Ant-Man really only made sense as fan-service. And I'm not quite sure what the motivation for going to all the effort of including Spider-Man was, save perhaps to begin to pull the franchises back together again. I thought the portrayal was excellent, and it actually inclines me to see the Spider-Man movie -- but that's coming from a different studio, so I don't know why they went to the effort of injecting him in this story.

(Devil's advocate for a second: he did lighten the tone a notch. That's not trivial -- most of the film is bordering on too serious for a tentpole summer action-movie. But he did seem unnecessary otherwise.)

As for the comics (warning: massive comics geek here), they were IMO just about the best thing ever to come out from Marvel, possibly the only mega-crossover event that was actually worth the hype. But it's an enormous, sprawling story -- even if you had the interest, I'm not sure it's possible to read it in a sensible way after the fact. The movie did an impressive job of taking the central ideas and tightening them up enormously...
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[personal profile] jducoeur 2016-05-19 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I was going to ask if there were graphic novels or something I could get hold of that would cover this stuff.

I suspect there are collections of the main miniseries -- but unfortunately, this was the cross-over-iest of cross-overs. Much of the key backstory motivating the characters takes place in their own books (eg, Reed Richards playing at, essentially, psycho-history and concluding the the populace is on the verge of turning on the heroes). And there are key beats all over Iron Man, several different Avengers books, Cap, etc. Indeed, the moment that I personally consider the end of the story actually takes place in Captain America, a couple of months after the end of the official miniseries.

(Not to mention that this is just the camel's nose in the tent. Civil War led directly to The Initiative, which led to Dark Reign, which led to Siege. What I think of as the overall arc took something like eight years to play out. Grand epic politics, and some very good stories along the way, but massive.)

So basically, the miniseries itself is just the skeleton. Most of the flesh is in other books, so the important parts of Civil War probably run something like 100 issues, scattered hither and yon...