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I know I had this conversation not long ago, but I can't remember who I had it with...

[livejournal.com profile] bluegargantua linked to this Time article on consciousness. In it, the author Steven Pinker references a series of at-the-time startling results from surgery on the corpus callosum. In short, the surgery was used for a brief time in history on patients with severe epilepsy. These days we have 'better' drugs and don't generally go about whacking apart large parts of peoples' brains because we can't figure out what else to do.

Anyway, the startling bit about this was that post-operative study of these patients revealed that our experience of unitary consciousness was, well, an illusion. In particular, people whose brain halves had been split from each other demonstrated that each half had a complete and coherent consciousness, often with a radically different personality than the commonly experienced consciousness. When I was an undergrad I remember reading, for example, about one of these patients whose dominant brain still loved his fiancee but when the other half was queried (*) it was found that this personality HATED the woman.

Problem: I can't find the original research reporting results on the split personality patients. I first read it on paper now long gone from my possession. Searching online has been fruitless. Even specialized sources like Google Scholar are just chock full of things I don't want. Pinker, of course, doesn't reference original source - he's not doing a scholarly publication after all. It's just accepted fact for people who study consciousness and yet virtually unknown to the general public.

So... HELP! I want to find and re-read these original studies, and I'm completely failing.

(*) It turns out you have to do some tricks to query the non-language half of the brain. Generally you cover one eye and communicate largely by pictures and pointing with the appropriate hand. If you let the patient use the other hand, the language/dominant personality tends to take over.

Date: 2007-01-23 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cereselle.livejournal.com
Can you give me some keywords or jargon? I can run a search through some databases at work (yay for universityness!)

Date: 2007-01-23 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dpolicar
Haven't read the article, and can't help you on cites.
Will say, though (from my own vague and uncited recollections of this research, back in the day) that while "our experience of unitary consciousness was, well, an illusion" strikes me as a very apt summary of the results, "each half had a complete and coherent consciousness" is a bit more troublesome a claim, though I understand where you're getting it from. It's one thing to demonstrate there isn't one-and-only-one "consciousness" in my brain... it's harder to demonstrate that there's exactly two, or anything else quite that neat.

Oh, and also:
These days we have 'better' drugs and don't generally go about whacking apart large parts of peoples' brains because we can't figure out what else to do.

You know, taken out of context, that sentence grows more entertaining with each rereading.

Date: 2007-01-23 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chienne-folle.livejournal.com
I haven't heard of that study, but it sounds fascinating! When you succeed in tracking it down, please post a link to it.

Date: 2007-01-23 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cereselle.livejournal.com
I have links for you, but I don't want to post them as the articles aren't public domain. I've completely spaced on your email. Give it to me again?

Date: 2007-01-23 09:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wotw
There are many many many such examples, with literature references, in
Pinker's "How the Mind Works", Dennet's "Consciousness Explained", and
many books by Michael Gazzaniga. Also this recent book by a fellow
with an Indian-sounding name that starts with R; slipping my memory at
the moment.

Date: 2007-01-23 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unseelie.livejournal.com
http://www.rifters.com/blindsight/BS_main.htm

read
blindsight.

one of the main charectors has had that surgery
and another is ... a multiple personality....

and it gets weirder and better.

some of the best hard science fiction I have ever read.

I hate the man - because - I know I will NEVER be as good a story teller as he is.

go go go

read rifters as well.

no REALLY.

Date: 2007-01-23 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chienne-folle.livejournal.com
Goodness, of course I know about many of the split-brain studies; I'm a psychologist, after all. The study I haven't heard of is the one you mentioned in your post: the one where they discovered that the halves of the brain were so separate as to have different personalities, including different degrees of fondness for the same person. The lectures I got on split-brain studies while in shrink school included a lot of interesting stuff, but nothing anywhere near as explosive as that!

Curse You.

Date: 2007-01-23 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daurdabla.livejournal.com
Just curse you. Now I have got to read this.

Which means I have to pay my library fines, which I was hoping to put off.

Although it looks fantastic. Warped, twisted, unhealthy, but fantastic.

The most interesting hard SF I have read to date I think has got to be David Gerrold's "War Against the Chtorr" series, on the off-chance you haven't seen it.

Fines paid.

Book ordered.

Date: 2007-01-24 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sykotropic.livejournal.com
Citations Courtesy of "Essentials of Understanding Psychology" by Robert Feldman, 7th ed.

Strauss, E. (1998, May). Writing, speech separated in split brain. Science pgs. 280-287

Sperry, R. (1992). Some effects of disconnecting the cerebral hemispheres. Science. vol. 217, pgs 1223-6.

Baynes, K., Elisassenk, JC. Lutsep, HL & Gazzaniga, MS (1998, May). Modular organization of cognitive sysems marked by interhemispheric integration. Science, vol 280, pgs 902-905

Hope that helps. I believe there is also a recent article (ummm New York Times? or Psychology Today?) that discusses brain operations and the renewal of severing the CC for severe epilepsy. What they are doing now is not a complete cut, but a partial cut maintaining some pathway in the back I believe.

Re: Curse You.

Date: 2007-01-24 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unseelie.livejournal.com
...

I've been reading all of his books
and
monster island

on line...

oops...

;-D

Date: 2007-01-24 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] intuition-ist.livejournal.com
hm, googling for "pinker split personality corpus callosum" yielded a reference to:

"Nobel prize winner R Sperry's research concentrated on what happens when parts of the corpus callosum, which connects left and right hemisphere, is cut.... Perhaps the most intriguing split brain research was with a patient of another pair of split brain researcher, Michael Gazzaniga and Joseph LeDoux, who had some limited language facilities in his right brain. This patient show marked preferences in responses from the two hemispheres. When asked, "What do you want to do?" the left hemisphere replied "draftsman", but the right hemisphere (using scrabble letters) replied "automobile race".
The overall results of Sperry's research can be summarised by his quote: "Everything we have seen indicates that the surgery has left these people with two separate minds. That is, two separate spheres of consciousness".

with a further reference to R.W. Sperry, Brain bisection and consciousness, in How the Self Controls Its Brain, ed C. Eccles. Springer-Verlag, New York, 1966.

(from http://www.singsurf.org/brain/rightbrain.html)

also, a tantalizing sentence: "When a surgeon takes a knife and cuts the corpus callosum (which joins the two cerebral hemispheres), the mind is split in two and in some sense the body is inhabited by two selves." from The Blank Slate, the Noble Savage, and the Ghost in the Machine (a 1999 lecture at Yale by Stephen Pinker)

also, Gazzaniga, M.S. 1998. The split brain revisited. Scientific American 279(1):50--55. A review of studies on patients whose separated cerebral hemispheres act as two semi-independent selves.




Date: 2007-01-24 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-ness.livejournal.com
great, induced MPD/DID. that's all we need.

(Thanks for the pointer!)

Date: 2007-01-24 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hlmt.livejournal.com
Fascinating stuff. I'm going to go check out some of those references...

Date: 2007-01-24 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com
What she said, though I only have a bachelor's.

The split-brain course I took at the University of Chicago used, as its main text (besides Fundamentals of Human Neuropsychology), Springer & Deutsch's Left Brain, Right Brain. My copy was published in 1981, or I'd pass it on to you; it's been through several editions since, though, and Amazon has at least a fifth edition published in '97 or '98. I'd recommend a search for "brain asymmetry" to find research that's newer still.


Date: 2007-01-25 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caulay.livejournal.com
I have a copy of Pinkner's How the Mind Works sitting on my shelf (unread, alas) if you want to borrow it.

Date: 2007-01-26 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vectorvillain.livejournal.com
Possibly V S Ramachandran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilayanur_S._Ramachandran)? As I understand it he's one of the bigger names in neurology.

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