Thank you, that's a helpful comment as it indicates I was not clear enough. I regard the two as being the same thing. As I tried to show with my first entry joke and then again with the jewels example for me an essential - perhaps THE essential element of Jewishness is questioning. We see things as they are and say "Are you sure about that?"
By going through and taking away all the difficult bits - the overt male-ness and the hierarchical nature of a worship that is based on a father/king figure the Chav has taken away all the questions. They've supplied answers - see, that was wrong and this is how it SHOULD be - and I view that as exactly incorrect in the way that the man in the first joke was incorrect by giving a definitive answer.
The answer isn't "G-d is male" or "G-d is female" or even "G-d is both/neither." The answer is "what questions does this make you need answers to, and how do you work to get those answers so they are sensible?"
I agree that "arguing against the traditional picture of G-d" is part of what I like. What I don't like is something that takes away all the arguments, and replaces it with something that reeks of tokenism - to me. One of the things I worry about is that as a male I can't judge how this appears from a female perspective so I'm especially grateful to have your input.
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Date: 2013-05-08 03:47 am (UTC)By going through and taking away all the difficult bits - the overt male-ness and the hierarchical nature of a worship that is based on a father/king figure the Chav has taken away all the questions. They've supplied answers - see, that was wrong and this is how it SHOULD be - and I view that as exactly incorrect in the way that the man in the first joke was incorrect by giving a definitive answer.
The answer isn't "G-d is male" or "G-d is female" or even "G-d is both/neither." The answer is "what questions does this make you need answers to, and how do you work to get those answers so they are sensible?"
I agree that "arguing against the traditional picture of G-d" is part of what I like. What I don't like is something that takes away all the arguments, and replaces it with something that reeks of tokenism - to me. One of the things I worry about is that as a male I can't judge how this appears from a female perspective so I'm especially grateful to have your input.