How powerful is the placebo effect?
Jan. 3rd, 2008 10:38 amFor quite some time it's been well understood that the so-called "placebo effect" (*) can have statistically significant effects on self-reported metrics such as peoples' level of sadness/happiness, confidence, and so on. Roughly speaking, the placebo effect is about as powerful as antidepressant pills in all but the most depressed people, leading to a question of whether the pills are in fact doing anything at all.
But scientists have been slow to accept (and there hasn't been much evidence for) the placebo effect making a difference in objectively measured criteria. Like, say, the size of your hips. This morning an NPR story (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17792517) pointed me to some research published last month (NY Times story here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09mindfulexercise.html?ref=magazine) by Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer that may push this idea further into the mainstream.
In this study, Langer and a student talked with hotel maids about their level of exercise. Despite being in jobs that kept them physically active all day and often involved quite demanding manual labor these maids didn't see themselves as "exercising." Two-thirds said they "didn't exercise."
Langer then measured externally visible metrics of physical health: BP, waist-to-hip ratios, etc. Then they educated about half the maids on the amount of exercise they were getting simply by performing their normal daily jobs. The other half got no education.
One month later Langer re-measured the same physical metrics and found that for at least three of the metrics there was a statistically significant change. The women who were told they were exercising showed the kids of physical improvements you'd expect from a comprehensive exercise program.
Unfortunately, the study doesn't appear to be air-tight. It's quite possible that the educated group of maids did things differently; perhaps they were more mindful about things like their diet, etc. The placebo effect might not be the thing responsible for the observed changes. But it might. Even if it doesn't account for all of the change, it may well account for some. Fascinating.
Neither story tells me where the research was published, but it did lead me to discover that Professor Langer has published a couple of pop-science books on the topic, and I'm ordering those. I'll write more once I've read them.
(*) The term is accurate but some people view it as a pejorative in the sense of "it's all in your head - you're making it up." Really that's not what's meant. The effect is real and measurable. I'm not intending anything pejorative here.
But scientists have been slow to accept (and there hasn't been much evidence for) the placebo effect making a difference in objectively measured criteria. Like, say, the size of your hips. This morning an NPR story (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17792517) pointed me to some research published last month (NY Times story here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09mindfulexercise.html?ref=magazine) by Harvard psychologist Ellen Langer that may push this idea further into the mainstream.
In this study, Langer and a student talked with hotel maids about their level of exercise. Despite being in jobs that kept them physically active all day and often involved quite demanding manual labor these maids didn't see themselves as "exercising." Two-thirds said they "didn't exercise."
Langer then measured externally visible metrics of physical health: BP, waist-to-hip ratios, etc. Then they educated about half the maids on the amount of exercise they were getting simply by performing their normal daily jobs. The other half got no education.
One month later Langer re-measured the same physical metrics and found that for at least three of the metrics there was a statistically significant change. The women who were told they were exercising showed the kids of physical improvements you'd expect from a comprehensive exercise program.
Unfortunately, the study doesn't appear to be air-tight. It's quite possible that the educated group of maids did things differently; perhaps they were more mindful about things like their diet, etc. The placebo effect might not be the thing responsible for the observed changes. But it might. Even if it doesn't account for all of the change, it may well account for some. Fascinating.
Neither story tells me where the research was published, but it did lead me to discover that Professor Langer has published a couple of pop-science books on the topic, and I'm ordering those. I'll write more once I've read them.
(*) The term is accurate but some people view it as a pejorative in the sense of "it's all in your head - you're making it up." Really that's not what's meant. The effect is real and measurable. I'm not intending anything pejorative here.
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Date: 2008-01-03 04:11 pm (UTC)Of course such a suggestion will get all sorts of people riled up, in part because the last I checked there was no scientific evidence suggesting prayer by a third party aids recovery.
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Date: 2008-01-03 04:43 pm (UTC)If prayer is done but the person being prayed for is not told then there is no measurable change in attitude or outcomes.
Interestingly the shift happens regardless of whether the people being prayed for say they believe in the power of prayer or not. This is probably related to another effect (named for the scientist who first discovered it in studies of telephone operators and whose name I'm also forgetting) that people do better when you pay attention to them, regardless of any other factor you can find.
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Date: 2008-01-03 04:51 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-01-05 07:21 am (UTC)And I think it's also worth noting that the animals you mentioned specifically, elephants and parrots, are also two of the ones who suffer most obviously from mental disorders in captivity, from obsessive and compulsive behaviors to self-destructive activities and violence against people. So are they receptive to human attention because they want it, or are they seeking it out out of frustration stemming from being out of their natural environment, away from their social groups, etc.? You're asking an interesting question but it seems like there's a lot of assumptions inherent in it... before exploring for an answer I'd love to see some evidence that any non-domesticated animal (or any animal at all, for that matter) as a species derives specific benefit from human attention/affection, and not just attention in general from any other being at all. Have you seen any studies on the subject? I'd be really interested to read them.
On a sort of similar topic, there's an excellent book about how plants have evolved to be pleasing to human beings... it's called The Botany of Desire. You should check it out if you haven't read it, I think you'd find it really interesting. It centers on the concept that while we think we've selectively bred certain plant species to be pleasing to us, by the same token the plants have been evolving to make themselves attractive to us, the same way they make themselves attractive to bees, in order to more effectively reproduce themselves... so who's using who? It's an interesting topic and a really enjoyable book.
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Date: 2008-01-03 07:41 pm (UTC)Hawthorne effect.
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Date: 2008-01-03 07:46 pm (UTC)Thank you.
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Date: 2008-01-03 04:14 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-01-04 04:52 am (UTC)OK if I link?
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Date: 2008-01-04 04:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-04 05:16 am (UTC)Ellen Langer is a well-known name in Psychology, so this study was even done by an especially trustworthy person. Interesting.
The thing that makes me think that antidepressants actually work (aside from my own experience) is that people often don't get better on the first drug that's tried but have to try two or three or ten different drugs. If there was a placebo effect, why would it only kick in on the fourth drug, instead of on the first one?
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Date: 2008-01-04 05:43 am (UTC)not to say that it isn't a second-order rather than direct effect (which is what i guess you mean by "not air-tight") but then, who cares how much about that, relative to a clinical benefit?
i'd suggest searching pubmed for your prof langer though rather than reading pop science, though. the lamest stuff ever gets out as pop science :/
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Date: 2008-01-04 12:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-04 03:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-01-04 06:14 pm (UTC)As I understand it (and I take your point that one ought to read the real published research, if there is any) the experiment showed a change in a population and attributed that change to one factor: education and change of viewpoint. If in fact the change was due to something else, that's a confounded experiment design and requires the experiment to be rerun with tighter controls (which I'd support anyway on the theory that reproduced results are better than a one-off).
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Date: 2008-01-04 08:37 pm (UTC)of course, behind every factor there is a mechanism (incl. in placebogenesis, which we are finally beginning to understand via mri). if educated people attend more to their diets, then that's a mechanism, but it does not change the education's status as a factor.
and of course all science has to be reproducible. the standard p-value is >.05 cutoff, which is to say that one in twenty publishable results is purely coincidental.