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Assertion: there are word-pairs in English that differ in meaning, but are spelled the same, except one of the pair is capitalized. We rule out pairs where the words are obviously of the same origin, e.g. Buffalo (city) and buffalo (intimidate/awe). Both come from the animal also known as the bison.

Intuitively it seems like there should be a large number of such pairs, but
Polish (people from Poland) and polish (to give a shine to)
Moor (ancient Arabs) and moor (a marshy type of land)
Reading (city name) and reading (the act of consuming a book)


Can my erudite readers come up with more such pairs?

ETA: WotW has two good ones in comments, and there's a whole class of people names that fit the rule but that I hadn't thought of.
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Date: 2008-12-26 10:58 pm (UTC)
coraline: (figs)
From: [personal profile] coraline
are you invalidating all the names? Dick, Pat, and and Mat are ones that come to mind immediately...

Date: 2008-12-26 11:25 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Not to mention Warren, John, Jack, Norm, Mike, Tony, Drew, and Mallard.

Also Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen and Comet.

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Date: 2008-12-26 11:02 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
I believe your example of a non-example is actually an example
of an example. It is my understanding that the city of Buffalo
takes its name from the French expression meaning "beautiful
water" and has nothing to do with the bison.

Date: 2008-12-26 11:07 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Mosaic (related to the prophet Moses) and mosaic (made of small tiles)

Date: 2008-12-26 11:11 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Tangier (city in Morocco) and tangier (more tangy)

Date: 2008-12-26 11:17 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Chad (African country or man's name) and chad (hanging shred of paper)

Date: 2008-12-26 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com
and Brad and brad too. :)

This reminds me of when I was about 9 and playing Scrabble with my family, and I'd put down a proper noun (I forget what the word was at this point). My brother said, "you can't use proper nouns!" I asked what that was. He explained, "it's like a regular noun but the first letter is capitalized, like countries and stuff".

To which I replied, "but the letters are ALL capitals!"

'cause in Scrabble they are. :)

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Date: 2008-12-26 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
Brad (man's name) vs. brad (small nail)

Romance (family of languages including French, Italian, and Rumanian) vs. romance (love story)

Constitutional (relating to a meta-law document) vs. constitutional (brisk exercize)

Herb (man's name derived from Herbert) vs. herb (aromatic greenery used in cooking)

That's all I got for now.

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Date: 2008-12-28 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfkitn.livejournal.com
I've heard it as,

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo.

for what it's worth.

Date: 2008-12-27 12:04 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
K2 (mountain in the Himlayas) and k2 (functor in algebraic k-theory).

Date: 2008-12-27 12:13 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
I (myself) and i (a square root of -1).

Date: 2008-12-27 12:15 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
May (a month) and may (is allowed to)

Date: 2008-12-27 12:16 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Likeiwise March/march. And August/august, though it's possible
they both derive from Augustus.

Date: 2008-12-27 12:24 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Moose (a cartoon animal with antlers that walks on two legs) and moose
(a real animal with antlers that walks on four legs)

Date: 2008-12-27 12:37 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Easter (a holiday) and easter (less far to the west)

Date: 2008-12-27 12:41 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Angle (an invader of what is now England) and angle (to fish, for example)

Date: 2008-12-27 12:58 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Cardinal (an official of the church) and cardinal (a type of number).

Presumably cardinal (the bird) has a derivation related to that of
Cardinal (the church official) (both being related to the color red)
but I conjecture that cardinal (the number) has a separate derivation
and therefore this example counts.

Date: 2008-12-27 01:03 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Peer (a member of the House of Lords) and peer (a person who urinates).

Date: 2008-12-27 01:16 am (UTC)
ceo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ceo
Or, peer, v. to look closely.

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Date: 2008-12-27 01:12 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Attic (a dialect of ancient Greek) vs attic (the top room in a house)

Or is it possible these share a derivation?

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Date: 2008-12-27 01:18 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Belch (hailing from Belgium) and belch (a popular activity among teenage
boys)

And if Belch doesn't mean hailing from Belgium, well it damn well should.

Date: 2008-12-27 01:32 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Douchebag (an epithet) and douchebag (a piece of equipment for douching).
[livejournal.com profile] naiad thinks these might have related etymologies, but I think
she's just guessing.

Date: 2008-12-27 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crouchback.livejournal.com
Tony/tony.

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Date: 2008-12-27 02:24 am (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Anus (members of an ancient tribe) and anus (a body part)

Date: 2008-12-27 02:41 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Lent (Christian days of penance) and lent (temporarily allowed the use of)

Date: 2008-12-27 04:13 pm (UTC)
bluegargantua: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluegargantua

I hope this one hasn't been used...

Mars (the planet) and mars (defaces)

later
Tom

Date: 2008-12-27 04:27 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Batman (a guy in a cape) and batman (an orderly in the British army)

Date: 2008-12-27 04:37 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
Homer (Greek poet) and homer (home run)

Mister (form of address for a man, as in "Hey, Mister") and mister (a spray
bottle)

Date: 2008-12-27 04:40 pm (UTC)
wotw: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wotw
What if a word has three meanings?

In meaning A, the word is capitalized
In meaning B, the word is not capitalized
In meaning C, the word is not capitalized

Meanings A and B have a shared etymology; meaning C is quite separate.

Then do I get to use the pair A/C, or does the existence of the pair
A/B disqualify A/C?

Pseudo-example:

A: Boxer (member of a Chinese secret society)
B: boxer (pugilist)
C: boxer (one who puts things in boxes)

A and B have the same etymology. Can I still use A/C? (In this case
probably not, because I'm guessing B/C also share an etymology---pugilists
contend in box-shaped arenas. But what if that weren't the case?)

In view of this ambiguity in the rules, I think we need to erase the entire
thread, get a clarification and start all over.
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