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We had to give Carly back. I haven't said a lot about it, but Carly is the dog we adopted about a month ago.

I've never had a dog before. Sort of wanted one when I was a kid but my mother adamantly refused all pets. Watching how my kids have acted around this dog has been an education in understanding her point of view.

Thing 1 has been super-awesome. He has totally leveled up in his responsibility and maturity. He deals, he's volunteered; he has helped with training her. And, like me, he can't be present when Pygment takes Carly back this morning. Like me, he cried some when we made the decision and afterward. Like me, I can see he's hurting inside but is getting by in the ways he knows how. Thing 2 not so much. He's balked at doing dog chores (like all other chores) and he's been constantly problematic about picking his stuff up, not interfering with training, etc. Nine is a lot different from twelve, what can I say.

I could write paragraphs about how great a dog Carly is. She's smart and affectionate and copes remarkably well with all sorts of things. I actually like walking her and she's gotten me off my arse and moving more than I usually do. She's convinced she's still a lap-dog despite her size and she has the softest fur around her neck and behind her ears. But I suppose you want to know why we're giving her up.

She's still not crate-trained. Boy does she hate that thing. She copes better when she's been at doggy daycare (thank you to tamidon for that pointer) and has been more tired out. She's still a puppy and likes to grab food you've left unattended, and to chew on stuffed animals, her leash, your hands, and other inappropriate things. I almost beheaded her when she tore up one of my books. But no, it's not any of that.

Despite coping amazingly well - even with kids - at a house party over Baitcon weekend she started showing signs of aggression last week. The aggression was unpredictable - some of it seems to be against people who act like prey. Somewhere inside, Carly is still a hunting dog. But sometimes it's just random. Frighteningly, it seems to be directed at children most often. She's gotten aggressive with other dogs, particularly ones that bark at her, but last weekend she went after a child who was visiting Thing 2 for a playdate. Pygment intervened and lost a bit of skin as a result.

On Monday, Pygment took Carly to an obedience class and talked to the trainer, who had some bad news for us (since confirmed by two other independent trainers). Carly is a rescue. We don't know what her history is, or how she's been treated in the past. Most troubling is that her aggression seems so random. We can't tell what the trigger is - a smell, a sound, who knows. That kind of intermittent aggression is the hardest kind to extinguish. If we were even going to try it would require intensive in-home work with a trainer and there was no guarantee of success. Things could be seemingly fine for a year and then one day she would hit some unknown trigger and berserk again. And if she did that and injured a child she might end up having to be put down.

That's the deal-breaker. We got her as a rescue to keep her from being killed in another shelter far away. We didn't get her just for our own joy, to put her at risk again. Carly is a great dog, but she isn't a great dog for us. She needs to be with a family that has no kids. So this morning Pygment took her back to the place where we got her, and we hope they can find her new people who will love her as much as we did, and keep her safe the way we can't.

Somewhere inside me is a tiny firey ball of hate for whoever did something bad to Carly so we could not keep her. Dammit.

Date: 2012-07-05 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
Oof. I'm so sorry. Not a lot more to say, just now. Sometimes it is so very hard to do the right thing.

Date: 2012-07-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
A thought, though (and more for some time in the future, of course): If you are still thinkning in terms of the rescue route, an older dog who has spent some time as a foster will (at least so far as I've sene with friends who do fostering) have been evaluated re how it is with children and other sorts of circumstance. You don't get the whole 'from a puppy' experience, but there'd also be a bit more surety.

Date: 2012-07-06 06:30 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-05 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rintrahroars.livejournal.com
*leaves a pebble*

Date: 2012-07-05 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunstealer.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear. that just sucks.

*pebble*

Date: 2012-07-05 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shaix.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry for you, your family, and poor Carly! I, too, hope that she finds a happy couple with a big yard and lots of toys and companionship, and that whoever caused her trauma dies in a fire.

If you do consider another dog when T2 is a bit older, you may be better off going through a breeder who is conscientious about who adopts the dogs.

Date: 2012-07-05 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badseed1980.livejournal.com
Oh man, that's rough. :( I'm so, so sorry. I hope your family is able to find a dog who can live well with you, and that Carly is able to find a family who can live well with her. *hugs*

Date: 2012-07-05 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taura-g.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, luv.

Date: 2012-07-05 04:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] donnad.livejournal.com
I'm sad to hear that you had to let her go, but you are doing what is best for her, you and your family. You'll find another dog that is a good fit with the family and eventually Thing 2 will come around.
Edited Date: 2012-07-05 04:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-07-05 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chienne-folle.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry you guys had to give up a dog you'd gotten attached to. Dogs can really make a home in your heart, and once they've done that, they're there.

I hope Carly will find a childless home where she can be loved without being a danger. And I hope you and Pygment manage to find a dog that fits well with your family.

Date: 2012-07-05 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tigira.livejournal.com
*pebble*

Date: 2012-07-05 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidfcooper.livejournal.com
Sorry your family and Carly turned out to be mismatched. I hope your next dog is a better fit, and that Carly finds more appropriate humans.

Date: 2012-07-05 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hammercock.livejournal.com
I'm very sorry to hear it won't work out to keep her. :(

Date: 2012-07-05 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unseelie.livejournal.com
I've never met Carly, there was a dog at my house for part of my childhood, a year into my childhood becoming unpleasant, the dog, the only life form at that time that showed me affection or even concern, died.
I mourn and grieve with you and for you and yours.

Date: 2012-07-05 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com
Woof. :-/

Date: 2012-07-05 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com
Er, no, the surface meaning was all that was intended. Arf?

Date: 2012-07-05 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddessfarmer.livejournal.com
*hugs* and condolences. Finding the right dog can take a long time, but you'll know when it's the right one.

Date: 2012-07-05 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrw42.livejournal.com
Awww. That's so hard. I'd say that you made the right choice, but you know that... Sometimes, doing the right thing really hurts. *hugs* to all of you.

Date: 2012-07-06 01:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mizarchivist
That's exceptionally sad and I'm sorry it turned out that way. Being an adult really does suck.

Date: 2012-07-06 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ceo
I'm sorry.

Date: 2012-07-06 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rednikki.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry.

Date: 2012-07-06 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sykotropic.livejournal.com
Bad dog week. I am both sorry that this was the first experience of pet owning and also in awe of your family's understanding of your needs and Carly's as well. Our 13 year old min pin is somewhere between dieing and living uncomfortably and I had the sad but amazing parenting moment watching my kids say good bye to her. Their understanding that her going to the vet "because she her heart may not be working right" might have meant never seeing her again was extremely powerful.

Date: 2012-07-06 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celticdragonfly.livejournal.com
*pebble*

Sorry to hear that. Been there. The two times Karl and I tried to have a dog together. The first he got shortly before we moved in together, and before we moved out to a big house in the country. She really needed to be some little old lady's apartment dog. The second was supposed to be a Keeshond, we're pretty sure he was a Kees-wolf mix, and had aggression problems, and needed to be somewhere with no cats and probably no kids.

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